Episode 5
· 47:26
Intro: The following series
addresses sensitive topics
including self harm and suicide.
Listener discretion is advised.
Uneasy Tiger: Uneasy Tiger.
Luisa: Why are millennials so
anxious and unhappy? Sure. Tell
me why psychology today.
Margaret: Luisa?
Luisa: Yes.
Margaret: Come on in. It's good
to meet you.
Luisa: You too, Margaret.
Sorry. Should I call you Dr.
Tomori?
Margaret: Oh, no. Margaret is
great.
Luisa: Great.
Margaret: So I have your intake
form here. Let's spend a few
minutes reviewing it together.
Okay?
Luisa: Sure.
Margaret: I'm going to confirm
your responses, but feel free to
elaborate or just let me know if
anything's changed. Okay?
Luisa: Uh-huh.
Margaret: Name and date of
birth.
Luisa: Luisa Zhang Hillman,
02/23/1988.
Margaret: And legal gender is
female, identifying as female.
Luisa: Yes.
Margaret: Marital status is
single.
Luisa: Yes, unfortunately,
according to my aunt. I'm kind
of seeing a guy right now. I
don't know if that counts, but
my aunt doesn't know about him
yet. So
Margaret: Okay.
Ethnicity: Asian and
multiracial.
Luisa: Yes. It's I can explain.
Margaret: Noted.
Mother's name is Sherry Zhang.
Luisa: Zhang.
Margaret: Zhang.
Luisa: Mhmm.
Margaret: Deceased. 29 years old
at the time of her death.
Your age at her death was one.
And for description of
relationship with mother, you
wrote complicated. We'll
explain. Yes.
Luisa: As you can see.
Margaret: Noted.
For your father's information,
you wrote unsure.
Luisa: Yeah. I that's also
complicated.
Margaret: Quite alright. We can
talk through all of this in more
detail.
And no siblings?
Luisa: Correct. Well, I mean, I
guess that I know of.
Margaret: Okay. Moving
on to the next section, which
asks about any issues you're
experiencing. I'm gonna list out
each issue regardless of whether
or not you left a check mark by
it, just to confirm your
response.
Luisa: Okay.
Margaret: Are you experiencing
any of the following problems?
Alcohol or other drug abuse?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Alcohol or other drug
abuse in your family?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Anger, temper
problems?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Anxiety, fears, or
worries?
Luisa: Yes. I I think so.
Margaret: Communication
problems?
Luisa: Yes.
Margaret: Compulsive gambling?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Death of a loved one?
Luisa: Yes.
Margaret: Depression?
Luisa: I didn't check the box
because I'm not sure.
Margaret: Noted. Eating
disorder?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Financial concerns?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Problems at work or
unemployment?
Luisa: Nope.
Margaret: Legal problems?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Any major losses or
difficult changes?
Luisa: Yes.
Margaret: Marital or
relationship problems?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Parent child conflict
of any sort?
Luisa: Yes.
Margaret: Any physical abuse
when younger?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Any sexual abuse when
younger?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Sexual problems?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Suicidal actions?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Suicidal thoughts?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Any violence in the
family, actual or threatened?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Okay. Next section.
Coping.
Are you constantly washing
hands, body, counting, or
checking things?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Any changes in
appetite, weight gain or loss?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Nausea?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Loss of hunger?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Vomiting after eating?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Constipation or
diarrhea?
Luisa: Sometimes.
I think I I think I checked that
box. But honestly, I was kinda
confused by the use of check
boxes on this form and what
exactly warranted
a check mark.
Margaret: Oh, it's okay. You can
give me context. Difficulties
concentrating.
Luisa: Sometimes.
So, yes.
Margaret: Okay. Disturbing
thoughts that you can't stop?
Luisa: Sometimes, yes.
Margaret: Fatigue or low energy?
Luisa: Yes, a bit.
Margaret: Feeling guilty,
worthless, or hopeless?
Luisa: Yeah. Guilty.
Margaret: Feeling hyper or too
much energy?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Loss of interest in
things?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Moody or crying more
than usual?
Luisa: Yes.
Margaret: Do you think people
are out to get you?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Do you think people
are picking on you?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Do you have problems
remembering things?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Repeating actions that
you can't stop?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Any sleep problems?
Difficulty falling asleep?
Luisa: Lately, yes.
Margaret: Nightmares?
Luisa: Yes.
Margaret: Waking up in the
middle of the night?
Luisa: Yes.
Margaret: Waking up too early?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Are you withdrawing
from others?
Luisa: A bit.
Margaret: Okay.
Luisa: So, yes.
Margaret: And no known medical
conditions listed?
Luisa: Correct.
Margaret: No known drug
allergies?
Luisa: Right.
Margaret: No previous
hospitalizations or surgeries?
Luisa: Correct.
Margaret: No previous suicide
attempts?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: And the current
prescription is just the birth
control pill?
Luisa: Yes.
Margaret: And have you not been
to counseling previously?
Luisa: Correct.
Margaret: Has any member of your
family been treated for the
following? Bipolar?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Major depression?
Luisa: Technically, no. I don't
think so. But my mother
committed suicide.
So
Margaret: Noted. Schizophrenia?
Luisa: Not that I'm
aware of, but I can explain.
Margaret: Substance abuse?
Luisa: No. But my mother did
make an attempt at her life by
swallowing a bottle of pills.
Margaret: Noted.
Do you drink alcohol?
Luisa: A few times a week.
Margaret: Do you drink products
containing caffeine?
Luisa: I have coffee every day.
Margaret: Do you have any
weapons in your home?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Do you smoke?
Luisa: Like tobacco? No.
Margaret: Do you use any types
of drugs?
Luisa: Cannabis, every now and
then.
Margaret: Have you ever had any
legal charges?
Luisa: No.
Margaret: Alright. Moving on to
the sources of stress section.
Luisa: Yeah. My favorite.
Margaret: Which asked you to
list the
things, events, or problems that
are currently creating stress in
your life, including any
significant losses or changes.
You wrote down "long story,
we'll explain in person."
Luisa: Yeah. So basically
Margaret: No.
Luisa: I got into
Margaret: It's Let's come back
to that in a moment.
Luisa: Yeah.
Margaret: The next section asked
you what your current
functioning is out of a 100. A
100 meaning that you're coping
the best you ever have. You put
70. Is that still the case?
Luisa: I think so. Didn't really
know how
to answer that question.
Margaret: No. I understand.
We're almost done with this. For
what are your goals in
counseling, you wrote, "I'm not
sure."
Luisa: Yeah. I'm not. I I know
that this will be good for me
talking to someone.
Margaret: Mhmm.
Luisa: Like, I know therapy is
good. Right? And most of the
time, I feel okay, you know? I
do. I'm a generally content
person.
And sometimes I think, why? Am I
actually content? Or have I just
fooled myself into thinking I
am? But then I sit here
listening to you go through this
intake form, and I can't help
but think my problems are small
potatoes, you know? There's
people out there with real
fucking problems.
Excuse my French.
Margaret: No. It's okay. Quite
alright.
Luisa: My mother had real
problems. My life has been good.
In so many ways, there's a lot
of good. Sorry. I don't know why
I'm getting emotional.
Margaret: This is a safe space.
Luisa: Right. Safe space.
Luisa: So, yeah, I don't exactly
know what my goals are for
therapy, except that I'm feeling
overwhelmed right now. There's
been a lot of revelations
recently, and I don't know how
to feel about all of it.
Margaret: Okay. How about we
take a step back and tell me a
bit about yourself and we'll go
from there. Okay?
Luisa: Okay. So, as you know, my
mother passed away when I was a
baby. I was like one and a half,
and I grew up with my aunt and
uncle...
Reina: You've reached Reina.
Please leave a message after the
beep. Beep.
Luisa: Yo, girl. Question. Is it
possible to say too much to your
therapist? I feel like I might
have said too much, but that's
like the point. Right?
I don't know. I might keep
looking for a therapist. She
basically suggested that I
should take a break from my
mom's tapes. Like, what? Why?
I love listening to my mom talk.
It's fine. I'm fine. Anyway, you
got any interest in going to
Joshua Tree? Maybe a girls
weekend?
We haven't done a trip in a
while. So sorry. I should have
sent this as a voice text.
Anyway, love you. Talk to you
later.
You know what? Fuck it.
GPS Navigation: Calculating.
Head east. Then turn left onto
Lake Avenue.
Park Ranger: Good morning. Nope.
Scratch that. Good afternoon.
Luisa: Good afternoon. A day
pass, please.
Park Ranger: Sure thing. Cash or
credit?
Luisa: Credit, please.
Park Ranger: Alright. And a map?
Luisa: Yes, please.
Park Ranger: You got it.
First time to Joshua Tree?
Luisa: Yes. Oh, actually, no.
I've been one time before when I
was, like, 14, so it's been a
while.
Park Ranger: Oh, well, welcome
back.
Luisa: Thank you.
Park Ranger: You have a good
one.
Luisa: You too.
Wow. Oh. Oh, yeah. Let me pull
over here. It does look like the
Flintstones.
Oh, so beautiful.
Mark: Oh, okay. Okay, just just
humor me for a second.
Riley: I'm always humoring you,
dad.
Liz: This is amazing.
Mark: God. That view is
incredible.
Riley: It's so hot.
Liz: We'll be quick.
Wow.
Mark: It's
not that hot.
Riley: It's fucking hot.
Liz: Riley.
Mark: Language, Riley. Gosh. It
looks it like we're in the
Flintstones.
Luisa: Yeah.
Mark: Right?
Liz: The Land Before Time.
Luisa: Yeah.
Liz: Right?
Riley: What the fuck are you
guys talking about?
Mark: Riley.
Liz: The Land Before Time.
Remember? We watched that when
you were little.
Riley: Sounds dumb.
Mark: It's not dumb.
Liz: Would you mind taking a
photo of us, please?
Luisa: No. Not at all.
Riley: God, mom. We have enough
photos.
Margaret: Not with this
masterpiece behind us.
Mark: No such thing as too many
photos.
Riley: Jesus Christ. Make it
quick because I'm fucking
frying.
Mark: Enough of that.
Liz: Riley Joan.
Mark: Sorry.
Luisa: I'll take a bunch for
good measure.
Mark: Thanks.
Luisa: Okay. Smile. And one more
and a few more. Okay. And last
one.
Riley: Jesus Christ.
Liz: Thank you so much.
Mark: Yes. Thank you.
Riley: Yeah. Thanks. Can we go
now?
Mark: Riley, please.
Liz: That's enough now.
Luisa: Yeah, Riley. Shut the
fuck up. Enjoy this. It's
breathtaking.
Also, The Land Before Time is
excellent.
Mark: I mean, yeah.
Liz: Mark?
Mark: What?
Liz: Mark.
Luisa: Yabba dabba doo.
Riley: Psycho.
Luisa: Oh, shit... Hey, Simone.
Simone: Luisa, my friend. How
are you?
Luisa: I'm I'm well.
Simone: I bet you are. Luisa, I
don't know what to say. How did
you do it?
Luisa: Did what exactly?
Simone: Woo Gloria, she loves
you.
Luisa: She does?
Simone: I mean, she didn't
technically use the word love,
but I heard it in her voice. I'm
just over the moon right now.
I'm so glad you two are hitting
it off.
Luisa: Me too.
Simone: I can only imagine what
juicy stuff is coming up in your
conversation.
Luisa: Oh, it it's been
incredible. She's had such an
interesting--
Simone: Yes.
Yes. Listen. I love to start
reading pages if you have any
ready. No rush. But how's next
week?
No rush.
Luisa: Next week? Mhmm. That
that's pretty tight. I'm I'm I'm
just now getting into the thick
of things with Gloria.
Simone: How about chapter one by
Thursday?
Luisa: Okay. That's doable.
Simone: Fab, I can't wait. Oh,
did you watch the docuseries?
Luisa: Yes.
Simone: What did you think?
Luisa: I mean, it was
informative.
Simone: Right?
So good. Right.
Luisa: I I'm just
Simone: What?
Luisa: It's hard to believe that
that's her. You know? Like, that
everything that happened in that
docuseries happened to her. It's
awful.
Simone: Oh, so awful the way he
tortured her. I will never look
at linoleum floors the same
again. Not that I ever really
see linoleum floors nowadays
because they're hideously dated.
But, yeah, how they reenacted
that scene, and the music.
Paired with the sound of his
footsteps.
I swear I've got the heebie
jeebies just thinking about it.
Luisa: I
Luisa: can't imagine living
through that.
Simone: Yeah. Gloria is a real
trooper. Anywho, I'm so excited
to read chapter one, the first
chapter of a bestseller, my
friend.
Luisa: Yep. Bestseller. I'm
starting to believe that.
Simone: Oh?
Luisa: Gloria has some of the
wildest stories, like funny,
poignant stories, so much more
than what she's known for.
Simone: Oh, love that, Luisa.
Those stories are exactly what
this memoir needs. Those moments
of levity will accentuate just
how gruesome her family's
murders were.
Luisa: Sure?
Simone: Listen, I gotta jet to
my next meeting. You call me if
you need anything. Okay?
Luisa: Okay.
Simone: Okay.
Luisa: Thanks, Simone.
Simone: Aw. Bye.
Luisa: Bye. Okay. Alright.
Chapter one. Fuck.
Reina: Yo, girl. Sorry I missed
you. Today has been crazy. I've
been running all over town.
Asshole.
Sorry. This jackass in a Dodge
Ram just cut me off. Surprise.
Surprise. Also, Jordan's in
town, Ronnie's friend.
You remember him? He stayed with
us, and I forgot how annoying he
is. Okay. He's not that bad, but
bro, like, if you're gonna use a
dish, put it in the dishwasher.
It's right there.
You see it? I even have a magnet
that indicates that the
dishwasher is currently dirty.
So guess what? Put your
currently dirty dishes in there.
You're a grown ass man.
Also, stop complaining about LA.
Seriously, every time he opens
his mouth, it's some goddamn dig
on my city. Shut the fuck up,
Jordan. Only people that live
here get to talk shit about LA.
Anyway, I got the cutest out for
the house robbing party.
Yes. I got a whole new outfit
for it, don't ask questions. I
cannot wait for you
to see it. I'll give you
a hint. It's covered in sequins.
End of hint. Also, you're
bringing your man friend. Yes?
I wanna meet him already. Oh,
and yes, there's no such thing
as saying too much to your
therapist. That is the point.
But, yeah, I don't know. Taking
a break from the tapes, that's
up to you.
But a break can't hurt. Right?
Therapists are there to listen
and suggest and, you know,
therapize. So maybe just take a
minute to think about why she's
making that suggestion. Okay.
Now an asshole in the Tesla is
testing me. Surprise of the
century. Anyway, I'm just
pulling up to the party store.
If you don't hear from me, it's
because I've been arrested for
murder. Love you, sissy.
Bye.
Gloria: I spent many years of my
life looking for guidance, for
answers. At one point, I even
joined a cult.
Luisa: What?
Gloria: Yeah. I joined a cult,
but only for a year
and some change.
Luisa: What? Which cult?
Gloria: Oh, you never heard of
them. It was a tiny no name cult
in Texas.
Luisa: I
have so many questions. First,
how did you wind up in Texas?
Gloria: I hitchhiked.
Luisa: This just keeps getting
worse.
Gloria: That ain't even the half
of it.
Luisa: Okay. So this was just a
few months after?
Gloria: Yeah.
Luisa: And you just up and left?
Gloria: Yeah. Sometimes we make
choices that make no sense. You
know, I actually grew up in Long
Beach back before the hipsters
arrived with their skate shops
and their cold brews. There was
a lot of gang activity, and my
daddy wanted us out. My parents
worked so hard to save every
single penny they earned so they
could get us out, and they did.
They bought us the tiniest house
on the block on this beautiful
tree lined street in Pasadena.
I'll never forget how green
everything was. The trees, the
grass, the bushes, even the
weeds, emerald green. A few days
after we moved in, I decided to
walk through our new
neighborhood. And on our stroll,
I was suddenly hit with the most
intoxicating scent. I sniffed
around trying to find out where
it was coming from, and sure
enough, that scent was wafting
off of this gorgeous gardenia
bush, which lined the front of
my neighbor's yard.
So I bent down closer to take in
this glorious scent, and the
next thing I know, this woman
comes running out of the house
screaming, something in
Mandarin, I think. And she's
waving her hands at me like she
was shooing me away, like I was
some kind of rat in her kitchen.
Things didn't look so green
after that.
Luisa: What?
Gloria: I just remembered how I
ran home and told my dad about
it.
And he just looked me dead in
the eye and said, well, Glory, I
guess next time you won't stop
and smell the roses, then burst
out laughing. The man thought he
was Richard Pryor, but that's
how my dad was. He could find
the humor in everything.
Sherry: Testing one, two, three.
Testing. Is this thing
recording? It seems to be doing
something. So
Luisa: Why good afternoon, young
man.
Trey: Why good afternoon, young
lady.
Luisa: To what do I owe the
pleasure of your call?
Trey: Well, milady, I was
feeling quite famished and was
curious if you'd like to join me
for tea.
Luisa: Like boba tea?
Trey: Oh, no. I meant dinner. I
think that's what the British
call dinner.
Luisa: Oh, dinner tea.
Trey: I think so.
Luisa: Well, I'd love to join
you for dinner tea, but I have
to get chapter one done on the
memoir. They, like, want me to
do the job they paid me to do.
Trey: What? That's silly.
Luisa: Mhmm.
What is really silly is the
amount of notes I've taken that,
now looking at them, I can
barely decipher.
Trey: I'm sure they'll come back
to you.
Luisa: Doubt it. So what are you
getting for dinner?
Trey: Well, I was thinking about
KBBQ.
Luisa: Oh, Korean barbecue.
Trey: Yes, ma'am.
Luisa: Well, now I want Korean
barbecue.
Trey: I could come pick you up.
We can make it quick.
Luisa: There's nothing quick
about Korean barbecue.
Trey: We can do our best.
Luisa: I
really should stay in.
Trey: Or you should go to Korean
barbecue with me and fuel up for
your long night of writing.
Luisa: Yes. That's totally
logical. Okay. I can go out, but
I have to be home by eight.
Trey: Okay. Ay ay, captain. See
you soon.
Luisa: Ay. See you soon. Oh,
shit. Where is my fancy paper?
Fancy paper. Oh, found you.
Okay.
Kimchi, banchan, bulgogi.
Trey: Look how smitten and
nervous they are. That is
definitely a first date.
Luisa: Korean barbecue for a
first date? Hashtag impressed.
Do the kids still use hashtags?
Trey: Not sure the kids ever
used hashtags.
Luisa: Okay. It's their first
date, but they've known each
other before.
Trey: Mhmm. They, like, met in
school, but they're hanging out
one on one for the first time.
Luisa: Uh-huh. And their friends
have shipped them for a while,
but they're only just now
getting brave enough to test the
waters.
Trey: Because they have such a
great friendship. Why risk it?
Luisa: Exactly. Oh, they're so
cute. I can't stand it. Sorry.
Is this annoying?
Trey: The people watching?
Luisa: Yeah.
Trey: No.
Luisa: Good. Because I love
people watching.
Trey: Same.
Luisa: I also love love, so when
I people watch, I hope that I'm
witnessing people fall in love.
Trey: That's a bit strange.
Luisa: I know.
Trey: But I dig it.
Luisa: Alright. Play it cool.
Behind you, your 04:00? What is
up with that couple? I said play
it cool.
Trey: What? That was cool.
Luisa: You straight up turned
around and looked dead at them.
Trey: No. I I looked past them.
Besides, they didn't even see me
looking because they were busy
looking at their phones.
Luisa: Mm-mm.
Mm-mm. You cannot go to KBBQ and
be on your phone. You gotta keep
your head
in the game.
Trey: You gotta stay focused.
Luisa: Or else you're gonna burn
that perfectly good brisket.
Trey: Not the brisket.
Luisa: Okay. They're married? I
see rings.
Trey: Oh.
Luisa: Married, looking at
phones, and letting the meat
burn.
Trey: They're doomed.
Luisa: What's the point of being
in romantic relationship if
there's no romance?
Trey: Got me.
Luisa: How does it go from cute
little first date over here to
that? Is that what happens when
you get married? All the romance
dies?
Trey: Well, I can't speak for
all married folks, but things
did change for me, for for us,
when I got married. I'm
divorced.
Luisa: Oh.
Trey: It's been a few years. I
hope that doesn't bother you.
Luisa: No.
Trey: It's just, some women I've
dated didn't like learning that.
Luisa: Well, if it makes you
feel any better. I've never been
married. So what does that say
about me?
Trey: That you've made good
choices with your life.
Luisa: Maybe. The bulgogi is
almost ready.
Trey: Yum. This place is great.
Luisa: Yeah. It's my fave.
Seriously, though, I certainly
don't judge you for being
divorced. I was in a nine year
long relationship, and we didn't
get married. But in a lot of
ways, it felt like a marriage.
Trey: I bet. May I ask why it
didn't work out?
Luisa: Yeah. I guess the long
story short is I wanted more.
How about you?
Trey: Oh, I wanted peace. She
wanted turmoil. Sorry. I'm not
trying to, like, speak ill. It's
we could just never be still
with each other.
Luisa: That's tough. Bulgogi?
Trey: Yeah. Thanks.
Now I'm going to expect that
every time you serve me any food
ever.
Luisa: It's a little something I
picked up from my uncle.
Trey: Oh, he sounds like a rad
guy.
Luisa: Yeah. He is. How'd you
get into Korean barbecue?
Trey: My coworker. He brought us
all the KBBQ once, and I was
hooked ever since. What about
you?
Luisa: My friend in middle
school introduced me. Her family
would take us all out for KBBQ.
She was Korean.
Trey: Oh, was?
Luisa: Sorry. Is Korean. Didn't
mean to make it sound like she
died or something. But then
again, I haven't talked to her
in years. So I do sometimes
wonder what she's been up to.
Trey: Were you close?
Luisa: Yeah. I don't know.
Looking back, it's dumb. One
night, she came over, and we
were watching some, like, WWF or
whatever it was called because
she loved that stuff, and she
loved The Rock in particular.
And, you know, sometimes she'd
get riled up and wanna pretend
to fight.
Anyway, we're just playing
around, but the next thing I
know, my aunt walks in, and
Jae's got me in a headlock. And,
of course, I'm screaming, but,
like, in a playful way. But my
aunt saw this and freaked out,
which is pretty hypocritical now
that I think about it. Sorry.
That's another story for another
time.
But, yeah, my aunt forbid me
from seeing Jae. So we stopped
talking. And then her family
moved, and she went off to a
different high school, and I
never saw her again.
Trey: You ever tried looking her
up on social media
or anything?
Luisa: Yeah. Years ago, but had
no luck. Her name is pretty
common. Sorry.
Trey: You need to take that?
Luisa: It's just my uncle. The
one with the whistle, actually.
Trey: Crazy timing. The kimchi
is outstanding.
Luisa: Oh, that reminds me. I
have a surprise for you.
Trey: Oh. Okay.
Luisa: Close your eyes.
Trey: Oh.
Luisa: Open your hand.
Trey: Okay.
Luisa: Okay. And open.
Trey: Is this what I think it
is?
Luisa: Maybe.
Trey: "Spicy is the kimchi.
Tasty is the galbi. Bulgogi with
me to a housewarming party?"
Luisa: I know. I've pierced your
soul with my words.
Trey: My soul is wounded. Is
this an actual invitation to a
housewarming party?
Luisa: My best friend Reina and
her partner bought a house, and
they wanna celebrate. So it's
next Saturday if you're free.
Trey: Oh, shit.
Luisa: What?
Trey: I would love to. I'm
actually heading out of town
next weekend to Munich for work.
Luisa: Well,
Luisa: bummer, but also that's
amazing. I love Munich.
Trey: You've been?
Luisa: One time, but it's been
years.
Trey: I actually get to go to
Germany quite a bit because of
the job. We have an office
there.
Luisa: Shoot. Cool.
Trey: Cool. Maybe next time you
could join?
Luisa: Uh, ich liebe... das?
Trey: And you're fluent in
German.
Luisa: I'm a real catch, Trey.
How long will you be away?
Trey: Just a week.
Luisa: Well, I'll miss you.
Trey: I'll miss you too. Also, I
just have to say, I know that
you're working on that memoir,
and that's gonna be great or
whatever, but this poem, this is
your Sistine Chapel.
Luisa: I know.
Trey: Don't talk to me like
that. You're just jealous. I got
the cherry blow pop.
Luisa: I'm not because I got the
watermelon.
Trey: You're jealous. You got
your PhD.
Luisa: What?
Trey: What?
Do you think he snaked me?
Because they hate me. Or he got
his PhD, player haters degree.
Luisa: What?
Trey: Mace, nineties? Can't
nobody hold me down?
[singing] Can't nobody take my
pride.
Luisa: [singing] Can't nobody
hold me down.
Trey: You got it.
Luisa: Oh, no. I got to
Keep on moving. Wait. Isn't that
song Diddy? We can't sing Diddy.
Right?
Trey: Come here.
Luisa: Oh.
Trey: Do you
Luisa: Oh, it's okay. I really
gotta go home. Yeah.
Trey: I know.
Luisa: Okay. What's happening?
Oh, shit.
Trey: What?
Luisa: It's my uncle again. He
doesn't normally... I'm I'm
gonna answer.
Trey: Yeah.
Luisa: Uncle?
Jim: Luisa, don't freak out, but
I'm at the hospital.
Luisa: What? Why? What hospital?
Jim: Huntington. Something's
happened with auntie.
Luisa: What?
Jim: Okay. Don't worry.
Everything's fine. She had a
seizure.
Luisa: A seizure? That that's
not fine. Okay. I'm I'm coming.
Sorry.
Can you take me home right now?
I have to get my car.
Trey: Yeah. Yeah. Sure.
Jim: They're about to take her
in for an MRI.
Luisa: An MRI? Wait. What
happened?
Jim: We were closing up the
shop. I went into the back room
for a moment. I come back, and
she's on the ground. And
Luisa: Okay. Uncle, it's okay.
I'm coming. Actually, sorry. Can
you drive me directly to the
hospital?
Trey: Yeah. Of course. Yeah.
Luisa: I'm on my way right now.
Okay?
Jim: I don't know what happened.
It was so quick.
Luisa: Here. Coffee.
Jim: Mhmm. Thanks.
This coffee stinks.
Luisa: Yeah. It's pretty
freaking terrible. How long does
the MRI take?
Jim: Well, she's got one patient
in front of her, so they said it
could be an hour or so.
Luisa: God.
Jim: I told them she doesn't
like enclosed spaces, so she'll
be sedated for the MRI. A
blessing for everyone involved.
Yep.
So who dropped you off?
Luisa: Oh, a guy. Trey. He's
someone I've been seeing.
Jim: Oh, well, first time I'm
hearing about this tray.
Luisa: I've been taking my time.
Jim: I understand. I know we
embarrass you.
Luisa: That's not true.
Jim: No.
Luisa: You know I don't think
that.
Jim: Yeah. I know. Remember that
goober you dated in high school?
Luisa: Oh, god.
Jim: What
was his name?
Oh, Pauly.
Luisa: Yeah. Why are you
bringing him up?
Jim: I couldn't stand that kid.
Luisa: I remember.
Jim: Oh, you know why I couldn't
stand him?
Luisa: Because he had long hair.
Jim: No. Well, yes. But but no.
I couldn't stand him because
whenever he was around you, he
was cool as a cucumber.
Luisa: And that's bad because?
Jim: Because anyone dating my
girl should be buzzing and
anxious. Buzzing with pride,
anxious to see you again.
Luisa: Is that how you were with
auntie?
Jim: Oh, yeah. We met. I haven't
been without her since. Luisa,
about your mother and your
father, I wanna give you
answers. I do.
But you see, that time was
awful. I don't like thinking
about it so much so that I think
my mind has blocked out a lot of
the things from that time, you
know, but not everything. Luisa,
your mom was a special woman. I
I really cared for her, and I
wish you could have known her.
I'm sorry that you didn't get
the chance to.
I still remember some of the
things she would say. She'd say
these things that would just
catch you off guard, and she
made me laugh. I I I always
looked forward to talking to
her. So when she passed, I was
heartbroken. But no one suffered
like your aunt.
Ya know, me and auntie would
watch you while your mom was at
work or school. Your mom would
drop you off. And we'd play
house for a few hours. We were
trying to have kids, but that
wasn't in the cards for us. When
your mother passed, I never
heard anyone cry the way your
aunt did.
I swear. She got into bed,
didn't come out for a month. And
I became a parent overnight. It
was just me and you, kid. I
learned how to make bottles,
change diapers, assemble tiny
outfits, buckle you up in a
stroller.
We were attached at the hip. I'd
bring you to the shop with me,
and I swear every time the door
would ding, you'd look over as
if you were expecting your
mother. You were just this tiny
thing, but you knew. I could see
that you knew. And then one day,
your father showed up to the
shop.
I had no idea who he was when he
walked in, but well, he claimed
he was your father, and he was
asking where your mother was.
And I swear to God, if you
weren't there in your playpen, I
think I would have killed the
prick. I mean, months had gone
by since your mom... and he had
no idea. You deserved better. So
I told him to fuck off.
Fuck off. Never come back.
And that was that. Maybe that
wasn't the right thing to do,
but it's what I did.
Luisa: Let's see what we got
here. Yes. Flaming Hot Cheetos.
Oh, what? No, oh. Oh, no.
No. Come on. Oh, goddamn it.
Stupid fucking machine. Give me
my fucking Cheetos.
Fuck.
Nurse: She'll be a bit groggy
for a few hours. Just make sure
she takes the anti seizure meds,
and that should keep everything
in check until we get the
results from the MRI.
Jim: Okay.
Nurse: We'll call
you as soon as we have them.
Luisa: Alright.
Jim: Thanks.
Luisa: Yes. Thank you so much
for taking good care of her.
Nurse: Of course.
Luisa: Hey, auntie. How you
doing? You ready to go home?
Patti: Yes.
Jim: There she is. I'll go pull
the car around.
Luisa: Here.
Wanna sit up?
Patti: Mhmm.
Luisa: It's okay. I'm just gonna
put this code on you while uncle
gets the coat. Okay.
One arm in here and the other
arm. There we go.
Patti: Sherry. Sherry?
Luisa: No.
Auntie. It's Lulu.
Patti: Oh.
Luisa: Remember me? Your
delightful niece.
Patti: Sherry.
Luisa: What? Auntie, what did
you just say? Home? Is that are
you saying home?
Yeah. Yeah. We're going home.
Debra: Hey, Luisa. It's Deb. I
am sitting here reading your
manuscript, and I had to pull
myself away so that I could call
you and tell you, bravo. This is
beautifully done. And wow,
informative too.
I am horribly uneducated about
Los Angeles, I'm finding. But
yeah. You should be proud. Very,
very proud. I I can't wait to
see this thing published
already.
Come on, Hunter. What are you
waiting for? Okay. Well, that's
all. Let's go grab, I don't
know, boba tea sometime.
Talk soon.
Sherry: Testing. One, two,
three. Testing? Is this thing
recording? It seems to be doing
something.
So Alright. Well, this is me,
Sherry Zhang. Okay. You don't
need to introduce yourself,
dummy. Today is January... no.
February? Probably should have
bought myself a calendar instead
of a cassette recorder.
Whatever. It's fine. Anyway, I'm
going to use these tapes to, I
don't know, talk about things on
my mind and stuff.
Dr. Shanti said the other day
that it's good to journal and to
give yourself an opportunity to
reflect. And, yeah, that's what
I wanna do with all of this. So
what's happening with me? Oh,
Chinese New Year is coming up.
It's the Year of the Snake.
I have no idea what the hell
that means. I know that I'm a
rat, like, in the Chinese
zodiac. I once read that a rat
hardly ever makes lasting
friendships and, boy, that
explains everything. Babalu's
dragon, of course. She already
breathes fire.
I think I'm more of an elephant,
but there isn't an elephant in the
Chinese zodiac. They've got dogs
and cocks, but no elephants.
Nuts. Yeah. I think I'm an
elephant.
I'm slow or should I say
measured. I have a good memory,
like, annoyingly good memory,
and I love to eat grass. I do
actually like grass, just not
eating it. God. I can't believe
it's 1989, and it's already
fucking February.
Pardon my French. Okay. That was
dumb. It's just me. Who am I
offending?
So this is weird. Just talking
to myself. Let's see. Oh, the
other day, my neighbor called me
a chink. Fucking Lenny.
I know I should be offended, but
I guess I forget that that's
what I am. That that's how
people see me, as some little
China girl. Fucking Lenny,
laughing his stupid head off.
Well,
Lenny, you've got a small dick.
How about that? Maybe not the
most clever comeback, but that
shut him up. It's true. Don't
walk around naked with your
curtains open if you don't want
people to see your Vienna
sausage, Leonard.
[singing] Little China girl...
When I was maybe 10, my mom and
I were at the mall, and we were
just getting him the car to
leave. And she's pulling out and
some guy drove by and yelled
out, "goddamn chink." And she
looked at me and said, chink?
What's that? So I told her, and
she said, oh, he must have been
talking to you.
She was funny like that. God, I
really do need to move. Can't
have Babalu growing up next to
fucking weirdos. Maybe the year
of the snake will be my year. I
just want it to be better than
the last.
That's all this little rat asks
for. I guess that makes no sense
though. Why would a snake be
good to a rat? Whatever. It's
all bullshit.
End Credits: Babalu was created,
written, and produced by me,
Kimberly Truong. Directed by
Katharine Chen Lerner. Sound
design, editing, and mixing by
Charles Moody. With performances
by Christine Liao, Kathleen
Gray, Ruby Marez, Lee Chen,
Varda Appleton, Chriselle
Almeida, Jaxy Boyd, Greg Smith,
Circus Szalewski, Melissa
Bickerton, Kiera Nusbaum,
Matthew Kimbrough, Katharine
Chen Lerner, Stephanie Orlando,
and Kimberly Truong. Theme music
by Edith Mudge.
Additional music by Manish
Ayachit and James Donahower.
Studio recording by Parker
Silzer and David Stern. Artwork
by Gabi Hawkins. Logo by Alex
Bruno. A very special thank you
to Liesl Lafferty and the
Firecracker Department.
Mari Meyer, Peter Byrnes,
Victoria LaVilla, Brandon
Beardsley, Hillary and the boys,
Katie McCuen, and our incredible
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